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Haolebaoji-Ji'an Line
[edit]Source: http://www.china-railway.com.cn/zyyw/tljs/gcjj/201901/t20190123_92379.html
According to this source, the Haolebaoji-Ji'an Line(Chinese:浩吉铁路), also called Western (Inner) Mongolia-Central China Line(Chinese:蒙西华中铁路) opened Sep 28(http://www.china-railway.com.cn/xwzx/ywsl/201910/t20191011_96759.html)
Unusual for a freight-only line its Jingzhou(or Jinmen?)-Yueyang section has a designated speed of 200km/h (other sections 120km/h). Since the article require newly built line to be >=250km/h this line probably doesn't belong here but then someone may consider mentioning it in Higher-speed rail or Rail freight transport. It make my head explode that there are freight-only lines faster than some CRH intercity lines(160km/h). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ibicdlcod (talk • contribs) 18:37, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
History section divided by countries?
[edit]The history section (at least for recent history) seems to be a collection of sections on each country. I think it would be more helpful to have a single history across countries to have a general idea of developments of HSR across time. As it is, this is just a repetition of the HSR history in each country's article, which is not really useful Ita140188 (talk) 10:32, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
What speed is high-speed?
[edit]High-speed rails are considered to have speed above 250 km/h for new lines (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-speed_rail). Therefore, all lines with speed 250 km/h and below should be excluded from this article “High-speed rail”.
116.110.42.83 (talk) 04:11, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
Acela
[edit]Is Acela an high speed rail? Or it's by definition.
2601:204:EA7F:220:E159:45BB:B700:8EB5 (talk) 04:04, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
- Acela is not high speed rail according to most definitions, which defines it as a service with speeds of at least 250 km/h. Acela max speed is 240 km/h. Most high-speed rail lines in the world are designed for and operated at 300 km/h. --Ita140188 (talk) 08:16, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- The definitions in this very article and others are quite clear on a minimum speed of 200km/h for upgraded lines. The NEC is an upgraded line, therefore Acela qualifies as a Category III high speed railway under the UIC definition (though not the Pyrgidis definition which requires a minimum average speed of 150km/h) --Yeti Hunter (talk) 05:51, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- Here is the UIC definition: https://uic.org/com/enews/nr/596-high-speed/article/the-definition-of-high-speed-rail The "principal criterion" is speeds over 250 km/h. Lower speeds may still qualify in special cases, but I think the Acela is not one of them: there is plenty of air competition in the route, and its tracks are shared by freight and slower passenger trains. Ita140188 (talk) 07:30, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- The definitions in this very article and others are quite clear on a minimum speed of 200km/h for upgraded lines. The NEC is an upgraded line, therefore Acela qualifies as a Category III high speed railway under the UIC definition (though not the Pyrgidis definition which requires a minimum average speed of 150km/h) --Yeti Hunter (talk) 05:51, 8 October 2024 (UTC)